Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:26:26 -0700 http://www.micsem.org/forum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.9 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57347#Comment_57347 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57347#Comment_57347 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:11:59 -0700 fagar http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57349#Comment_57349 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57349#Comment_57349 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:13:18 -0700 vanuatu http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57350#Comment_57350 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57350#Comment_57350 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:14:32 -0700 vanuatu http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57354#Comment_57354 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57354#Comment_57354 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:45:36 -0700 Catastrophy http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57355#Comment_57355 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57355#Comment_57355 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:46:03 -0700 vanuatu
Teachers are the main reason why we are all on micsem. They deserve every bit of raise that they deserve. But, what we should be mindful of whether our governments, as stretched in finances as they are right now, can accomadate this need currently. We should not forget other sectors as well like Health Care and so forth.
With the incessant draw-down being implemented, we will certainly be in for a rough ride. It is all the more reason why each State must have a plan to counteract and balance our priorities. If we are not admitting to inflation right now, it may get worse because fuel is creating havoc on all economies.
How will the government respond to the needs of citizens, financial and what not, is something that we do not know yet. We just have to brace ourselves and hope for the best.]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57367#Comment_57367 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57367#Comment_57367 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:38:04 -0700 reps http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57373#Comment_57373 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57373#Comment_57373 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:04:04 -0700 vanuatu http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57515#Comment_57515 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57515#Comment_57515 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:54:22 -0700 Misfit As far as raises go, yes a teacher should get a raise, but only if they are evaluated on the basis of their performance as being productive based on set criteria. There are teachers out there that deserve raises that never get them and teachers whom should never even have been considered for the job that are getting raises faster than the kids are growing and learning. I sometimes wonder if there should be an independent team of evaluators on teacher performance other than the principal. Favoritism is still a major factor in our little islands when it comes to raises and that is a fact.
There is the question, who else knows a teacher better than the principal? But I ask my own questions, Should the principal's evaluation be the only evaluation to consider when it comes to a raise? Does the principal even understand how to evaluate a lesson plan and the execution of it? Does a principal even know the extent of how a teacher evaluates a student and how effective they are? Does the principal's personal idea of a classroom environment effect the way a teacher is being evaluated because he or she has a different teaching environment approach? Some principals think that a quiet classroom is the ideal learning environment as apposed to a teacher who thinks that a classroom with vocal students and buzzing activities is ideal.
I know some people will point out that a teacher needs to sign their evaluation before it is turned in to the main office. A teacher has the option to sign and agree or sign and disagree and request a hearing to appose the evaluation. There is protocol for these things, but remember, if you appose, that could be used against you as not conforming to policy and all that. Another point to remember is this, a teacher can get 2 raises on one evaluation if they exceeded all expectations on the evaluation. But who is to say if it was fair or not?
Okay, I think I went a bit over board there...way off the subject? LOL...well, you know...over analytic...
*slowly eases out the door...poof! disappears!*]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57522#Comment_57522 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57522#Comment_57522 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:06:09 -0700 nerisa
good luck teachers>>]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57524#Comment_57524 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57524#Comment_57524 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:25:13 -0700 sinsohn Students need more motivated teachers to help them excel and there's no better motivation than to be well compensated for by being in the forefront of the education process of our future...]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57735#Comment_57735 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57735#Comment_57735 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:40:29 -0700 Finkol http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57736#Comment_57736 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57736#Comment_57736 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:42:02 -0700 SeaSonS_comeNgo http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57747#Comment_57747 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57747#Comment_57747 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:43:43 -0700 4angels http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57977#Comment_57977 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57977#Comment_57977 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:00:56 -0700 motoyil i do believe that teachers get a raise in salaries. Like how everyone had shared they have very much shaped us ( i mean educationally). They deserve a raise in their salaries. There are very qualified people to teach out there and the reason why they do not take up the work is because of the salaries. The salaries are too low, and i am not blaming them. With the cost of living today, people are discouraged to take up jobs that the salaries are very low.]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57978#Comment_57978 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57978#Comment_57978 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:07:21 -0700 pohnpeian lory http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57979#Comment_57979 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57979#Comment_57979 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:13:57 -0700 vanuatu How much is enough? Picture me ducking and running away. lol]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57980#Comment_57980 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57980#Comment_57980 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:19:32 -0700 pohnpeian lory http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57981#Comment_57981 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57981#Comment_57981 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:25:54 -0700 vanuatu http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57983#Comment_57983 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57983#Comment_57983 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:54:49 -0700 underkrown http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57995#Comment_57995 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=57995#Comment_57995 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:23:37 -0700 Bizzare
please give em raise.]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58019#Comment_58019 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58019#Comment_58019 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:17:12 -0700 Ladu http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58044#Comment_58044 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58044#Comment_58044 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:58:37 -0700 cholymay1
There is a great need for all government employees to get higher pay. I DO NOT AGREE WITH OUR FSM GOVERNMENT OR STATE GOVERNMENT WHEN THEY EXCLAIMED, 'THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY'. If our government care enough about the people, salary should have been raised centuries ago. We brag saying we are a new nation, yet we are still carrying old TT policies on salary. What kind?

This is a great challenge for our FSM President, Honorable Mr. Mori. My fellow FSM citizens, if any of our leader works hard on raising salary, that leader is a real leader. This goes to all of our leaders in the FSM. Let's change gear. Why don't this subject be number one on your next agenda meeting. This is something very very serious for you our leaders to challenge.

Keep this in mind!!!!]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58067#Comment_58067 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58067#Comment_58067 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:08:30 -0700 pohnpeian lory http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58095#Comment_58095 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58095#Comment_58095 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:24:49 -0700 Cyrus
Rumor is that nearly 50% of FsM teachers do not have even associate degrees, but then many of these teachers could actually teach better than those with bachelor degrees. This ought to make those folks at DOEs work harder to sort them out and identify those who truly deserve the salary increase for merit purposes.

The bottomline is every employees of both public and private sectors do deserve salary increases or some form of COLA to adjust to the run-away inflation and rising cost of fuel and food in the FSM. Of course with their salaries and allowances, the leaders haven't truly feel the impacts just yet, so they could still breath during this dilemma while the rest of us are dying.]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58099#Comment_58099 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58099#Comment_58099 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:43:40 -0700 Koputei
Its not about who is the leader and all. its about money. If we have enough money and the leaders think there is enuff to raise the salary so be it. Don't just do the juukese way of doing things, pass the laws without money appropriation. Thats cheating the heard working pple of chuuk.

The recent mtng with the FSM President said that he okayed the minimum wage in the states level, but its up to the individual states' legislature to appropriate em'. So i guess the states don't have the money to do so.

I would say that teachers get their pay raise when chuuk student population improves in their skills, that would be a true reflection of a hard working teacher. Nowdays it shows that our chuuk student population is poor in english grammer and other subjects. it shows that teachers are still no showing up to work and still get paid for it. i'm still having problem improving my english skills, courtesy of my english teacher a high school graduate. Back then they were the best we had.
they struggle but they did they best.]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58151#Comment_58151 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58151#Comment_58151 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:42:49 -0700 Ladu http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58201#Comment_58201 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58201#Comment_58201 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:42:07 -0700 ninja http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58205#Comment_58205 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58205#Comment_58205 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:07:53 -0700 public•nuisance
not all teachers deserve pay raises. just cause they hold the occupation, doesn't mean they are fit for it.

but those who teach and actually make a difference ...in passing on knowledge and skills...do deserve a pay raise.

what's the average salary for teachers in FSM and the rest of the islands?

Misfit - ngera ududir ar sensei ra belau?]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58512#Comment_58512 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=58512#Comment_58512 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:11:21 -0700 Pintong http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59065#Comment_59065 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59065#Comment_59065 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:38:59 -0700 innominate001
give 'em the raise.]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59343#Comment_59343 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59343#Comment_59343 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:55:43 -0700 Yakumo http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59409#Comment_59409 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59409#Comment_59409 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:11:45 -0700 M0ki http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59420#Comment_59420 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59420#Comment_59420 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:35:11 -0700 IS http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59462#Comment_59462 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59462#Comment_59462 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:25:59 -0700 Aus
Chuuk state's education system is in trouble not because teachers are not paid enough but because, quite honestly, they don't work hard enough. I have seen and heard of many occasions when teachers simply do not show up to school, or classes end early for no real reason. The other problem is that teachers (at least in Chuuk) are simply not qualified-how can a teacher teach basic Math and English if they are not trained in it (or simply don't understand it) themselves? I would be MORE than happy to support a pay raise if the teachers improved their performance, which we will see if the students' grades increase.

We cannot blame the students for their grades. It is not a money issue. It is a teacher issue. And until they improve, the system as a whole will not, no matter how much money you throw around. I am truly sorry to say this. To all the good teachers out there working hard to improve you classes and Chuuk state, I thank you. But where are you all?]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59511#Comment_59511 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59511#Comment_59511 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:59:21 -0700 LADYRED-K54P http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59781#Comment_59781 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=59781#Comment_59781 Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:15:24 -0700 kuop http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66332#Comment_66332 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66332#Comment_66332 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:54:23 -0700 moses http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66333#Comment_66333 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66333#Comment_66333 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:47:03 -0700 chuukeichok http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66361#Comment_66361 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66361#Comment_66361 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:41:49 -0700 Olaikanguu http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66373#Comment_66373 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66373#Comment_66373 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:40:39 -0700 point5er http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66376#Comment_66376 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66376#Comment_66376 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:19:43 -0700 repis
The answer to your question is YES. I am a former teacher. I am still remembering the extra hours and efforts I had to spent on my family time for the sake of quality instruction. Our teachers deserve a reasonable pay raise. By all means let's give them.]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66416#Comment_66416 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66416#Comment_66416 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:32:05 -0700 lakidurdz
every time they raised the teachers' salaries, every commercial products in and out of the businesses or business-like stores raised their prices. everything from marketing to black-marketing raised their prices. the hell with this processes...

the $30.00 dollars added to the teachers salary is NOTHING compare to the sky-high prices in almost every product around the FSM. i strongly believe that if this practice keeps on goin' on and on. maybe from my calculation, $30.00 dollars---you can buy a bag of ice cube to cool your head down. am i right or wrong?..don't let the monkey judge ya'll...hehehehe...peace...]]> http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66428#Comment_66428 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66428#Comment_66428 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:53:43 -0700 FSMist http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66511#Comment_66511 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66511#Comment_66511 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:51:20 -0700 verizon_wireless http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66759#Comment_66759 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66759#Comment_66759 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:16:22 -0700 Tamwel http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66789#Comment_66789 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=66789#Comment_66789 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:30:03 -0700 pwulakin http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=67142#Comment_67142 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=67142#Comment_67142 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 04:55:36 -0700 monster http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=67146#Comment_67146 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=67146#Comment_67146 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:36:51 -0700 jose http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=67157#Comment_67157 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=67157#Comment_67157 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:52:37 -0700 mamacyl http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=67163#Comment_67163 http://www.micsem.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2824&Focus=67163#Comment_67163 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:10:36 -0700 maihek